Miller - Homeowner - from [Contractor Response] The Silverlines and Excalibur aren't as good as the other two, I would eliminate them right away. The Simonton is average, and the PGT is pretty nice, a 4" frame and exterior flange. I sell more of them than anything else.
Dan - Installer - from Read additional Silverline windows reviews. The PGT windows are more expensive. Are they worth it? Which has the better warranty? It looks like with the standard low-e glass and argon fills, you can expect a U-factor of. These are solid numbers and will serve you just fine. I do like the look and performance of the PGT Energy Vue Series, very clean lines and some great interior color options. However, it sounds like price is a big factor so I might go with the NT window option.
However, the quality of the installation has to be a big factor here. How would you compare the companies or dealers who will be doing the installation? If one is the clear winner, I would lean towards them. In terms of warranty, it appears they are pretty close, both limited lifetime warranties that can be transferred to a new owner. I tend not to put much stock in warranties, although I always assume that the better the warranty, the stronger the company feels about their products.
Also ask them about warranty issues in the past and how well the company responded to the claim. They are pretty much white, beige, and tan. They tend to be either laminated or painted, and both have some drawbacks.
PGT makes a PremierVu series that isn't bad, and if that is too high as far as cost, look at their series. Their only problem is they don't have a wood grain interior. I've sold hundreds of them when they had the NC factory, and I think I only had a problem with one order, but that was handled right away and the customer ended up satisfied.
The Gorell is good too, especially their different glass packages. Their triple pane is better than almost anyone as far as energy savings. I'm not sure which is better? I have 18 regular windows plus 4 sliders so it's going to be a lot of money, I want good windows, but I also want a good deal.
I'd like input as to e-ratings, warranties, durability. I've worked with them, although a lot of people haven't cause they're a smaller company.
They make a good, solid product, and I think I sell more of them than the Simontons. We just had a job with 37 PGTs and not a single window had a rough weld or any other defect. Once we had a window delivered with broken glass and a screen with some scratches, but they were both replaced quickly, no problems. Their numbers aren't great, but they are a good serviceable window, good company and good price. I have handled a lot of Gorell, and I'm sure that you'd be happy with them.
If the PGT is good, it's a pretty big price difference to overlook. It comes standard with some nice features, including an embedded tilt latch, constant force balance system, tilt sash design, comfort lift handles, and a beveled meeting rail.
The window comes in host of exterior finishes, including a natural oak and natural cherry laminate finish. The single hung is attractive, well made, and often times well priced. Certainly worth a good look if you are in the southeastern United States and can find a dealer in your area. Located in Tampa and it includes installation and building permit fees. I am moving from N Carolina and this seemed really high. What do you think? Sliding doors can be very expensive if they are custom sized, so I would definitely get some additional quotes to see if other brands or companies have your size in a standard unit.
That might be a big game changer for your project. CWS and Simonton are both available in Florida, both make hurricane resistant series, and may offer more competitive pricing. They might not, but it's certainly worth a look before you move forward with this quote. It was a lot more expensive than I thought and your website was very helpful in leading me to the same conclusion. I will definitely shop around. I read that Simonton was available thru Home Depot.
Do you know if they are the same product as available thru a dealer? Sometimes they have lower quality of the same brand names. Not exactly a hurricane safe product, but I'm always wary of going with hurricane windows in general. I don't live in a hurricane prone area, so my advice is probably not very valid, but I always thought if a hurricane hit, I'd cut plywood to protect the windows and then have them on hand every five years for the next hurricane.
If it were my house, I'd buy a good "normal" vinyl window at a lower price point and have my plywood ready for the real tough stuff. Of course, building codes may mandate something else here. Bottom line is I'd go with a Simonton rep over the HD route.
PGT Series vs. I was wondering if you still think the Aria series is a poor selection. Thank you. In general, I don't recommend entry level windows to most homeowners, but really it's one of their only non impact vinyl windows. I revoked at the specs and components and they actually seem pretty impressive. I would say that the installation will be important, but assuming you find a quality company to do the work, then I would think the Aria would be a decent option. The cost on both is very similar, which strikes me as very weird for some reason.
I'd probably opt for Simonton over PGT myself. Bigger company that has been around longer. We are going with horizontal rollers because the shape of our window makes installation cheaper and we like them better. Both came in right at the same price for 12 windows at about 9. From your reviews of those two windows, PGT would be the one to go with right?
I think it's probably a better quality window overall. Simonton I live in the Orlando area I have narrowed my search to the final three. Thanks in advance for your assistance. I would say the PGT is the winner for me given the product and the price. Assuming you are comfortable with the company doing the work, I think you have found a good option.
My second choice is the Simonton window. Meredith - Homeowner - from [Site Editor's Answer] Meredith, first of all great job on getting all those bids. It's a pain in the arse, but now you have an amazing array of options, prices, and products to choose from. The Simonton Coastal is a bit of a question mark in my mind and I think the window is a full step below the and models. I would still use these lower bids to drive and see if you can get the PGT and Simonton dealers to come off their initial bid price.
The money is the same. I am ordering 7 windows in Ocala Florida for a stick frame house. I'm not sure I can rate one over the other. I would instead turn from the windows themselves to the installers, and use that as the basis of my decision of who to go with. Reputation, reviews, references, how long they've been in business, you gut reaction to each. I would have suggested you try and negotiate the price and choose the one who drops it the most, but I don't see how much lower they can go for the windows they are offering you.
I think PGT has better warranty that will be beneficial 50 yrs from now long after I'm dead and gone. In Florida I think I can live without the low E due to are milder winters. I have hurricane storm shutters on my home so I am not in need of the impact resistance windows as a replacement.
The Cost proposals from two different companies are comparable so the question becomes which of the two is the better window? Interested in your thoughts. I happen to think that PGT makes an excellent window for the price point. Make sure that the company who is installing the PGT has solid online or traditional reviews -- given this, I think PGT is the clear winner in terms of the window. The old single pane aluminum windows needs to go. Looking for a neutral party comparison of the windows i have been quoted so far.
The PGT and Anderson same in about the same price, is one better than the other? The Anderson is an American Craftsman line , i believe 50 or 70 series.
Both are single hung. The Simonton Vantage Point came in a lot more expensive but i also a double hung. My main two focus are efficiency and resale value increase. Are the Simonton windows worth the extra money? If not PGT or Anderson? The Anderson was a lower level quote but the same people that quoted the Simonton. In my gut I am liking the PGT, i thought the presentation was better and more thorough.
However, I do not like the fact they used the ' model home' discount, but they are still the cheapest quote. What are your thoughts on all 3 products?
The PGT is the hands down winner, I like the quality of the windows, the welds, the price point. American Craftsman are not good quality, they just happen to be owned by Andersen Windows.
Do make sure that the installer is doing thorough work, I always suggest asking him to take you through the process to give you a better idea how it's going to work.
Most quality installer will have a nice thorough answer for you, as opposed to "we pull out the old windows and stick in the new ones. Assuming good installation, I think you have a clear cut winner. Dane - Site Editor - from PGT vs Eastern Architectural Systems I am in the market to upgrade my original Florida crank out windows single pane glass and have narrowed my decision to two window manufacturers.
I am on a tight budget but need the upgrade for aesthetics and efficiency. Can you tell me about each window? I live in Jacksonville Florida proudly serving in the U. I appreciate your help!
Gus - Homeowner - from [Site Editor's Response] Gus, I have never heard of Eastern Architectural Systems , although it looks like they are part of Earthwise Windows And Doors, which is a loose knit group of smaller window manufacturers. Most of these smaller manufacturers buy all of their window parts and asemble them at the local factory and sell them within their regional market.
The original impetus for the group was that smaller regional manufacturers lacked the resources and infrastructure marketing materials, sales, support, engineers, designers, etc of the larger national window manufacturers. They therefore banded together under the Earthwise group to take advantage of its branding, product awareness and national presence. Make sure whoever installs it, has lots of experience with this particular window. If you want two additional suggestions the more bids you have, the easier it is to negotitate down the price.
I loved working for PGT. The only bad thing was that you worked a lot of hours. There wasn't much time for a life outside work. But, if you need money. The pay isn't bad. You have vacation time and benefits. Pros Work with awesome people.
Cons Worked a ton of hours. No life outside work. Good place to work but advancement is difficult. Its a simple job you build windows from the frames up focusing on quality and safety. You need to know tape measurements and how to operate machinery which you'll be trained. Its hot inside and your standing for 12 hours shift. Management is good some section leaders don't really meet the requirements for their positions. Multi cultural sometimes your co-workers could be good or bad I've personally dealt with a lot of no good co-workers.
The hardest part of the job is advancing your career if your lucky you can get to t-3 and then to team leader or other. I was there a year and applied myself everyday and was only t-2 when others where selected for t-3 or trained on appropriate machines needed to get promoted. I feel like they can work on this and help people move up the line.
The most enjoyable part of the job is that the company itself is a good company with strong family values. Pros Benefits, Family orient, and Simple job. Cons Healthcare is expensive, the pay is not high enough for the work you do, and the location. Great company so sad it closed down after almost 4 yrs of working there.
Great benefits, great work environment! One of the best company to work for. Compensation is great, I got what they promised me from day 1. Too bad I had to shift to another company coz of personal reasons. But I would definitely recommend this company to drivers out there who are after good compensation, career growth and professional environment. Pros Compensation, people you work with are not only professional but also accommodating at all times. Cons No routes where I'm living now.
Hard labor and really a man's job. We got many quotes when looking for impact windows and doors for our home. We went with Paradise Exteriors and are very happy with our new windows. They are not the cheapest but you get what you pay for.
And never came back. I am ready to pull the trigger but am unhappy with the pricing. I called PGT and was told by someone there what their prices are. If there is ANYBODY on this thread that can help me with a better and fair quote, please feel free to contact me or refer me to someone here. Thank you. Not everyone buys at the same discount. Not everyone has the same overhead and installer payroll.
Rob this is how it works when purchasing any product of any type, not just windows. I don't see why you see this as incredible. Is this not the case with whatever you do for a living? Some companies do this better than others, in exactly the same as some companies do better work than others. If this wasn't the case there would be no reason to have more than one manufacturer, retailer or installer for any one product.
In my case I know what it costs to buy the PGT windows I was quoted directly from the lumber yard at what is likely one of the "lowest" markups and then I have a range of installation prices that are comparable from there.
The idea is not to install windows for the lowest price. If that was the case then install them yourself and you will see how hard it really is.
Installers provide a wealth of other services to the installation of a window. It's MUCH more important how the windows are installed then what the price is. You should be reading the reviews of people who have used the companies that you are looking to get quotes from rather than just randomly getting quotes.
I read the reviews first and did not call many companies after the reviews I saw. These are the most stringent codes and the windows actually don't cost any more than ones that do not have a NOA so I don't see a reason to consider the others for us since this also gives us the best insurance benefits also.
I did not know this when I first started with pricing windows. I've got a buddy in the window business on the east coast of Florida. Price is only a portion of value. Figure out what benefits are the most valuable for you and your lifestyle and then judge the total project by your most important factors.
Quality of installation is most important for some while an owner expecting to sell in a couple years or a house with other issues may be more influenced by price.
Some owners wish to be more involved in details but others just want to write a check and not worry about small choices. Like many other discussions, different is not necessarily wrong. Try to find a contractor whose best attributes match your priorities and look for value, not low price. Unless you are buying the product as a cash and carry, to do the installation yourself, how is the cost of the materials important in this calculus? I'm so lost with choosing the right window brand.
I'm not quibbling over price although taking it into consideration. One says definitively only use SIW, 3 installers says absolutely don't use them. One very large reputable company worried my small condo might get lost in their slew of larger projects only uses CGI. Why use one vs the other, considering the price is comparable? I don't think anyone is suggesting that they are the "be all" of impact rated windows. There are multiple brands out there that meet impact standards.
If you haven't, talk to friends or neighbors and see if any of them have had good luck with a product or installer. See if that narrows the scope. WoW, I was hoping you'd respond so thank you. Yes, I've spoken with neighbors in the building and a few others with some experience. He ultimately apologized after 2 days that I was right.
He's been almost impossible to track down and only responds intermittently. Red flag for me. It's the absolutes some of these guys are giving me "absolutely don't use PGT for your condo" or "definitely don't use SIW" that have me concerned. I've read as much as I can on here and and the references I mentioned in my original post. Unfortunately, I remain confused. I may ultimately choose the contractor who offers the best warranty for both windows and installation even though they only use CGI.
Clearly there has to be a mark-up for installer to survive. Having said that, the problem in Florida seems to be that there is only an illusion of competition but no real competition.
No one company would survive with so many bad reviews and customer complaints if there was competition. What puzzles me though is why have no other company tried to enter this market if there is so much money to be made? Is it very difficult to make good impact windows? I've been doing this for most of my life. Have you read the PGT limited lifetime warranty. In fact non of the window factories do. How about the stress crack warranty? Or the argon gas warranty? The companies ABC that you mentioned have probably been in business for quite a while covering up the mess of manufacturers limited lifetime warranties, with their own total lifetime warranty.
When PGT does cover a warranty with a replacement window, who installs it???? Right you have to find your own installer. There are inherent costs for dealing with quality reputable companies. Alex C There are many other companies. Regency, Cws, Simonton, Schwinko But, there is only one company that makes "Impact Glass" and that's Cardinal. The differences are in the glass All will pass inspection.
But, some are much better than others. And more equipped to handle the different pressures that come with living in Florida. The key aspect that differentiates these two lines stems from window frame materials. EnergyVue only comes with vinyl frames, whereas you can only get ClassicVue Max in aluminum. Apart from laminated glass and frame materials, little separates WinGuard, EnergyVue, and ClassicVue Max in terms of design and performance options. All three lines come in most popular styles, including double-hung, casement, and picture windows.
Window types: single-hung, double-hung, horizontal roller, casement, awning, picture, architectural. Key features: impact-resistant glass, aluminum and vinyl options, noise reduction. Each model meets Miami-Dade certifications, and according to PGT, they have not received a single report of impact failures in over four million units sold. Further inspiring confidence, PGT stands by the durability of WinGuard windows with an intruder protection warranty.
Regardless of frame material, both offer optional colors, grid styles, grid patterns, and energy-efficient glass. EnergyVue windows essentially offer all of the amenities of WinGuard Vinyl minus the impact-resistant laminated glass. You can find EnergyVue in every design PGT has available from basic single-hung to eye-catching architectural windows.
Additionally, they feature an extensive range of customization options from energy efficiency, colors, and grid patterns. Window types: single hung, horizontal roller, casement, awning, picture, architectural. Despite this, all models apart from some casement windows meet requirements for the High-Velocity Hurricane Zones of South Florida. ClassicVue Max windows offer similar customization to their WinGuard and EnergyVue counterparts, including energy-efficiency options, tempered glass, frame colors, and grid patterns.
Low-E , short for low-emissivity, filters out UV rays and infrared light while letting in visible light.
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